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Grant Marn's avatar

Talent is a combination of core competencies and results. Understanding that these posts are focused on QB competencies - results still need to be the proof points for those competencies. You should see great skill resulting in improved on the field production. At the risk of being viewed as negative, I just don't get the Burrow love here and elsewhere.

His numbers have been in decline for 2 seasons. Here are some selections:

*QB Rating - 108.3 to 100.8 to 91

*Approximate Value - 15 to 17 to 12.8 (extrapolated)

*AY/A - 9 to 7.6 to 6.4

*TD% - 6.5 to 5.8 to 4.1

*Comp.% - 70.4 to 68.3 to 66.8

*On Target% - 82.8 to 79.1 to 75.6

*Bad Throw% - 10.7 to 12.9 to 14.7

*IAY/PA - 8.1 to 6.8 to 6.3

This despite elite receivers, an offensive minded HC, and very good protection (Sack % - 8.9 to 6.3 to 6.2) his numbers have declined as his media acclaim has risen.

I just don't see it in the numbers. If you tell me its injuries, that's a reason for a downgrade at his young age. The cold reality is that 2021 keeps getting smaller in the rear view mirror to support these sorts of lofty rankings.

Burrow is another guy here who for me needs to majorly step up in 2024 or should fall significantly down the rankings next year.

Thanks again.

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Arthur Conner's avatar

Over the course of his four years Joe Burrow has put up qbr of

48, 60, 60, 51

Which is roughly similar to Jared Goff

50, 45, 63, 60

This makes them roughly in the 10-20 range.

They each get bonus points for being #1 picks that got their team to a superbowl.

I think there is a confirmation bias with burrow in that he is one of the three “generational” qbs along with Lawrence and Williams of the past few years.

I do know some of this is because he has played through injury, but his bad games don’t seem to count as much as someone like Dak

Qbr isn’t a perfect stat ( I don’t think it captures Jackson’s running threat for instance) but it is more complete than how good as someone looks in their highlights.

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